or the TV series. The Mandalorian is gonna be awesome.
Veda the Moor
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RE: What did we learn from Wilson's Contract Process?
I wonder how Frank Clark is feeling today though. I read.. but now Im not sure its true that he was frustrated last week with no progress towards a long term deal..but surely he knows that really dealing with Russ is the priority...?
What did we learn from Wilson's Contract Process?
The clock struck midnight and nothing happened. Seahawk friends messaged frantically. Twitter's 24 hour meltdown piqued into a symphony of confusion.
What did it mean? The rather arbitrary and final deadline imposed by Russell Wilson's agent had come and passed and nothing happened. Was that it? Was he a goner? Doomed to be traded before or during the draft when best value would be gotten?
Of course all the hand wringing was for not, as soon all was revealed.
Russell Wilson re-signed! Four years on top of the remaining year! Five more years! And even I felt relieved. Which is odd. Ive written at length at my skepticism that Seattle can win a Super Bowl while devoting 35 million to Wilson. I've always also said though, it wasn't that I dont like Wilson or underrate him. He is the funnest QB to watch Ive ever seen and so I look forward to 5 years of watching him and hoping Im wrong.
So what are the lessons to be learned from this process and the contract eventually signed?
- Posturing takes on new levels when the stakes are this high.
In all negotiations, at least where both sides are at least somewhat skilled, there is some posturing. Initial offers and statements are all aimed at setting the table to get what you really want. I know that. The people around me know that, and Im not stranger to negotiation. But this process highlighted just how far it can go when youre discussing tens of millions of dollars. Consider the converging threads of evidence that made it seem plausible Wilson really did want to leave. When at least three different sources give different, independent indirect takes that indicate it.. a lot of people believed. Or, the narrative really pushed in the last couple days -- Wilson wanted unprecedented conditions in his contract. Wilson wanted the first 3 years fully guaranteed. He wanted his salary locked in as a percentage of the salary cap.
In the end, those were all initial positions designed to get Wilson what really mattered: a conventional contract for the most part that just "showed him love" and made him top of pay scale for now.
- Lack of real information leads to a lot of projection.
As the process continued, the lack of updates and real information about what was happening led people to a lot of conclusions that said more about themselves than anyone else. If you are already the type that somehow has had your confidence in the Seahawks brain trust shaken, you may have been out there giving takes that really were coming from within -- condemning the Seahawks and getting ready to burn things. If you were of a more positive bent, you may have been one of those tweeting what really seemed unwarranted optimistic tweets. In the end, people shared their feelings almost among ideological lines and it was interesting to see.
- Trust what you see.
The last few days , as I wrote earlier, featured particularly strong posturing that made me at least question what I knew about Wilson. I know some people think he's fake or a robot, but if that's true we could stand to have a lot more "fake" people who are good people and fewer jerks who are just "keeping it real". For me, Wilson does purposely maintain a public image but I think that's natural and positive. But suddenly I found myself really believing he wanted out of Seattle. Believing he didnt really care much about anything except his ego. I admit last night I briefly actually worried about the children in the hospital he visits weekly -- what would happen if he just stopped visiting. How would those kids take it?
Of course, everything that led me and others down that road of thought was wrong. Wilson seems to really like Seattle and to fit it in. Now we see that really likely is true.
- Evaluate your sources.
Whether it's old school media or social media, more than ever its important to evaluate the sources. Big shout out to Jake Heaps at 710am. In the face of some national media types even saying the opposite, he stuck to his guns with his narrative, which seems the one that is far more likely to have been true in hindsight: the sticking point was the guaranteed money in the second and third years. He was saying things while others were reporting the Wilson camp was going hard after the salary cap tie. But Jake is local, knows Wilson, knows the people involved. Personally, I dont really love Jake's on air presence, but he's turning out to be informed and a good judge of accurate information. Likewise Bob Condotta had the most level headed updates and comments on the drama as it unfolded, while many other media outlets ran in the wrong direction, in good faith, but just not as dialed into Russell Wilson as the local people.. and Russ is a complex guy to really figure out. The Social Media.. well.. some of the most respected members of it were being the most ridiculous and it set me into old man mode.
- Better hit on the draft picks.
At 35 million a year.. a 31 million cap hit.. roughly 1/6th of it.. the Seahawks are going to have to seriously money ball everything else that they can. They like cheap receivers and if they can get away with that again, I expect them to try for that again. Frank Clark probably wants more than he is worth and the Seahawks need draft picks.. Wilson's contract may lead directly to Clark being traded. They need an EDGE rusher who isnt going to be 23 million a year. I will be interested in the moves the Seahawks make regarding this draft because more than ever those picks are going to be gold. The rest of the roster needs to be cheap with just a few pricey guys. A cap hit of 31 million a year over 22 million means 2 mid level type guys cant retained, or that money has to be saved elsewhere. Every pick counts even more than before, there is even less room for error.
- We will get to see the transformation of Wilson.
No one can say what Wilson will be like in 3 years. As he slows down and has to become more and more of a pocket passer, less elusive, what will he be like? Some point to his great pocket passer rating and say he is already a pocket passer when he wants to be. Others suspect that number is still influenced by the THREAT of what he can do. When teams dont have to assign their defensive ends to just run upfield and hold, when the entire defensive front 7 isnt having their play style dictated by the threat of a Wilson scramble or play extension, will Wilson still be a top 3 quarterback? I think there is a good chance he will. He is extremely smart with an agile, creative mind and I think that will pick up the slack for slowing legs and perhaps slightly thicker stature.
Im looking forward to watching what this team will be in Wilson's 3rd contract. Its not secret I have reservations about what it means for the team, but who wouldnt want to watch Russ play ball for the next 5 years?
RE: Hawkscast Mock Draft 2.0 4/15/2019 UPDATED and REVISED
Totally get waiting til day 3 for OG. But with what would be there at 32...you want to get max talent on your team for the pick and at that stage I just think that is where the value is. There are still quality players there..some that previously were projected pretty high. But its a bit like what I was saying before.. is it better to get the 7th best Edge guy or the very best at a different position. I feel like if you cant get an EDGE guy til then you may as well wait and get Maxx Crosby later, because the drop off isnt as big. Most likely. WR as well, youre into the second level of guys at this point..do you want a WR in the second group for your 1st pick or a guard in the first? And Lindstom looks like the type we plug into the line and never have to worry again for 5 to 10 years.
Hawkscast Mock Draft 2.0 4/15/2019 UPDATED and REVISED
Ok, some time has gone by. Ive let things percolate. Ive digested, Ive read, Ive consulted the colors of the wind. And revised some of my thoughts. Those that changed I have placed astericks next too.
Without further ado, the draft 2.0 (comments stay the same unless I have something to add or the pick changed). Format is the same: team, perceived needs, player.
IDL, EDGE, IOL, WR
QB Kyler Murray
I dont agree with them doing this but it seems pretty sure they are.
- San Francisco
CB, S, EDGE, WR
EDGE Nick Bosa
The best player in the draft and Im not happy this guy will be in the NFC West.
**3. NY Jets
EDGE, CB, OT, IDL
Old pick: DL3T Quinnen Williams
New pic: EDGE Josh Allen
Wililams rates higher for me but Allen is at a sexier position the marktet values more. The Jets go with Allen.
EDGE, CB, RB, LB
Old pick: EDGE Josh Allen
New pick: EDGE Montez Sweat
They are going to be tempted by Quinnen Williams and that might be the smarter play, but they need to address an anemic pass rush that was created with Mack's departure and cant get too cute trying to fill it.
**5 Tampa Bay
LB, EDGE, CB
Old pick: OT Jonah Williams
New Pick: OT Andre Dillard
I did the first draft "blind", without looking around at other mocks. It seems Andre Dillard is rated higher than Johah on most peoples boards and Tampa Bay is likely to go with that then.
They have to decide if Winston is what they want to do at QB . Dillard will give them time to evaluate.
**6 NY Giants
EDGE, OT, CB, QB
Old pick: DL3T Ed Oliver
New pick: DL3T Quinnen Williams
The cascading begins. Williams is a force and the Giants wont ignore it.
I think some people want them to go QB here but I just couldnt justify it. Williams will reinforce the D and be a wrecking ball.
EDGE, OT, TE
OT Jawaan Taylor
They are hoping Foles is the answer, post Bortles. Taylor will be his new best friend.
CB, TE, EDGE
Old pick: EDGE Montez Sweat
New Pick: DL3T Ed Oliver
Strictly speaking not their top need but Oliver will be too tempting to Matt Patricia and his versatility will make the Lion's defense better immediately.
IDL, EDGE, OT
Old pick: CB Greedy Williams
New pick: OT Jonah Williams
They pick a cornerstone OT to solidify their OL.
QB, LB, IDL
Old pick: IDL Devin White
New pick: QB Drew Lock
If I were the GM, Id go with white. But with the draft approaching, people are falling in love with QBs. I left a lot out in the first version thinking teams may have learned to lay off, but the chatter out there now makes me believe otherwise. The Bronocos choose Lock and he will have the luxury of sitting a year.
LB, OT, TE
EDGE Clelin Ferrell
This could be early but the Bengals need playmakers on D.
12 Green Bay
S, TE, OT
WRF DK Metcalf
Green Bay and Rodgers just seem to work when they have lots of WR that are legit threats more than a TE. DK Metcalf will take pressure off Adams.
QB, OT, EDGE, IOL
CB Byron Murphy
I think I believe those that say Miami is in a long term re-set and wont feel compelled to grab a QB this year, in a down year for QBs.
New comment: Tempted to go OL here, but if Byron Murphy is still here you take him.
IDL, EDGE, CB
EDGE Brian Burns
Vic Beasely isnt cutting it as their main pass rusher off the edge. This might be a reach for Burns but if you want an EDGE rusher these days you have to be prepared to stretch out for it!
WR, IOL, EDGE
WR AJ Brown
Washinton needs some real threats at WR, AJ Brown will help.
EDGE, OT, S, IOL
WR Hakeem Butler
Cam needs weapons and Butler should provide that.
CLE CB, S, IDL, LB
QB Dwayne Haskins
I considered that they might be able to trade this to Arizona for Rosen. But with how the draft seemed to fall in my opinion I thought they might be better off keeping the pick and Haskins and getting and extra year of him compared to getting Rosen's already 1 year old contract. If they think Rosen is better they might make the trade here.
IOL, OT, IDL
DL3T Rashan Gary
That defensive line used to be a strength..its not really now. This gets them back on track.
EDGE, IOL, WR
Old pick: EDGE Jachai Polite
New PIck: EDGE Brian Burns
An immediate upgrade. Polite is falling, Burns is rising. Polite may go in the 3rd now, and I think thats a bargain. In the meantime, Burns will fit in nicely.
WR, LB, CB, EDGE
Old pick:FS Deionte Thompson
New pick: ILB Devin White
Never was happy with the first pick but good find an "ah hah!" guy for them. Now we put Devin White and that fits like a glove and fills a gap thats been there since Ryan Shazier was injured.
- Seattle --> Oakland
S, EDGE, CB
TRADE1 - RAIDERS TJ Hockenson
Obviously this is a Seahawks board so I spent the longest time on this. Obviously Seattle wants to trade back. I tried to find something realistic. I felt the Raiders would be willing to move up so they get TE Hockenson. They lost their starting TE from last year and Gruden was unhappy about it. Carr likes going there so this gives them the TE they like best. It could be TE Noah Fant instead.
Seattle gives up #21, and gets #27 and #99.
**Added comment: I find this even more realistic now. I feel there MIGHT even be a bidding war around here somewhere as the Patriots right around this pick are going to get antsy for Noah Fant or TJ.
**22 Baltimore --> New England
WR, LB, IOL, EDGE
Old pick: Baltimore takes TE Noah Fant
New Pick: NE take TE Noah Fant
The Ravens really need a WR, but the value here is TE and its also a need and might fit their QB best. However, they arent married to it and will take the trade, move down and pick up ammo to fill their many needs. NE gets their Gronk replacement, one of only 2 TEs in the draft that can be that do it all type TE.
OT, IOL, S
Old pick: OT Andre Dillard
New pick: OT Kaleb McGary
QB Watson was sacked far, far too much last year. McGary will bring that number down. This might be a reach but I couldnt make the numbers work for them to trade up and get Jonah Williams, and if they move back Philly will take their OT.
CHI EDGE, CB, RB, LB
RB Josh Jacobs
Only one RB really worth the first round this year and Oakland is the team in the situation they can use a pick there.
S, OT, EDGE, RB
Old pick: FS Juan Thornhill
New pick: FS C. Gardner -Johnson
Good value here for what some people might say is the best FS in the draft. Need a tackle but I dont see value at 25 for that. Thornhill had a great combine but so did Gardner Johnson. Gardner Johnson gets that edge here. Eagles are a candidate to move up if they can find a partner as they really need one of the top for OTs.
IDL, WR, S, CB
DL3T Christian Wilkins
No deep holes but Wilkins will solidify the interior of the D line.
27.Oakland --> Seattle --> Green Bay
DAL EDGE, CB, RB, LB
TRADE1 - SEAHAWKS.
TRADE2 PACKERS DL1T Dexter Lawrence
The Seahawks trade down a second time. They send both picks from Oakland to Green Bay (#27, #99) and get #30, #107, and #111.
The Packers move up to secure Dexter Lawrence who will anchor the middle of their D line. The Chargers would be tempted to take Lawrence if he was still on the board.
OT, IDL, WR
Old pick: CB Amani Oruwariye
New pick: CB DeAndre Baker
They might be tempted to go QB or OT but Id still consider those reaches with what is there. Baker will help them keep pace with the Chiefs passing game and raise the talent level of the defense.
**29 Kansas City
EDGE, CB, LB
Old pick: DL5T Zach Allen
New Pick: CB Greedy Williams
The defence needs help every where and Greedy Williams will help neutralize some of the dangerous WRs in the AFC.
**30.Green Bay --> Seattle --> New England
S, TE, OT
Old pick: Seattle pick OG Chris Lundstom
New pick: New England picks DL3T DreMont Jones
This time around a third trade seemed possible and likely. NE may want to pick up DreMont Jones to fill the middle before he becomes a possible pick of the Rams who had a horrible defense and lost Suh.
EDGE, LB, CB
ILB Devin Bush
The Rams got to the Super Bowl last year but still had some obvious holes. Bush probably wont really fall this far but if he does is a steal.
**32.New England --> Seattle
EDGE, IDL, WR
Old pick: NE takes QB Drew Lock
New Pick: Seattle takes OG Chris Lindstrom
I am tempted to put one of the highly rated EDGE rushers here.. but they are rated that high because of the position and I just cant escape the logic that the best guard helps your team in relative terms more than the 7th best EDGE guy does. Nasir Adderly or Juan Thompson are also considerations here , as is obviously one more trade down which I didnt consider as it gets too complicated at this point to really be something useful to mock.
So.. in the end Seattle gets the best guard in the draft while ending up with picks:
32, 84, 107, 11, 124, 134, 159. By round: 1, 3, 4, 4, 4, 5, 5
I feel weird about the number of highly regarded players I have still on the board.. DL5T Zack Allen, S Adderly, S Thompston, QB Daniel Jones, etc but the board dictated my picks so maybe some players will just fall. I still am probably light on QBs as well. I dont think the Dolphins go that direction though so maybe not.
- San Francisco
RE: Star Wars Episode IX (Official Thread)
Ok.. so.. despite The Last Jedi's best efforts..Im still a Star Wars fan at heart and can be manipulated. And this teaser has piqued my interest more than I expected. Its honestly hard to overstate the damage The Last Jedi Jedi did to my fandom. But here we are..and lets talk this teaser..trailer..commercial. Whatever Im meant to call it.
So I will mostly just reply to @Zeb-Stark ...
Well, what to make of the Palpatine laugh. My initial guess is where Im still heading with it..and its not good. Thats a clone, right? Lets do some time travel.. its like 1992? Its 9 years since the last (and at the time we really thought it would be the LAST ) Star Wars movie was made. Im in college. Im still a Star Wars fan..but with little to be a fan of in the pre widespread internet days. X-Wing the video game.. ANYWAY>..to the point.. I I started reading the books. The Star Wars novels Lucas finally and begrudgingly let me written. 37 years later we are supposed to say the Thrawn books were good. But they werent. They were JUST good enough to give me a Star Wars fix. I was annoyed at how often the characters recycled the lines from the movie, as if the author KNEW he wasnt capturing the feel of Star Wars and so had to remind us it was Star Wars in another way. Finishing those I moved on. And immediately stopped. Thrawn was just good enough.. the rest I ran across were utter tripe. Cliches, even worse dialog, and complete lack of imagination in just about every way. Luke and Leia were twins...so Jedi babies are twins. Vader commented Luke was powerful because he built a new light saber.. so suddenly that was the big test.. and then..the worst sin of all for me: they brought Palpatine back as a clone. So lame. In the movie it has potential to be worse because its just random. Good stories have foreshadowing and what not. This is just almost like an apology to the fans alienated by the last movie, but not for me.
Now, it could be something else. A hologram recording. An imposter. Something else.
Im not sure the entire new Trilogy "shits" on the original Trilogy. I think a case can be made for TLJ being a sort of giant work of trolldom. But when we think there is 30 years between the movies and that evil doesnt sit still..its ok to let the bad guys come back. The problem of course is in the execution..
I dont buy the excuse about Yoda's quote. It clearly meant that if Luke faced Vader he might die or turn to the dark side and the galaxy would be even worse off. We know that because they brought up "another". If they DO use that excuse to justify things I would be annoyed. I dont like movies changing what they meant.. be clever enough the first time.
The title..Im hoping, because it would be cool to watch...a redemption of Kylo Ren is in the cards and he takes his birth mothers actual last name. But it could be anything.. its not Rey. Im fairly sure.
I read something today saying since this is the last of the saga, not just trilogy, its mostly about tying things up..and it looks like a journey tale which would be new for Star Wars.
Im looking forward to this more than I expected. But I didnt watch the trailer 10 times straight like I did for TFA and Rogue One and TLF.
RE: Star Wars Episode IX (Official Thread)
I dig that mural actually.
I hear you on Lando, but they could play this right and have it fit right in. The Resistance is down to like 30 people in the Falcon .. it could be Lando-ish to have not gotten involved until really, there was no where else to turn. Sucks Han and Lando didnt get a last scene together but , if Luke and Han didnt I guess we cant expect much as the mere fans.
My expectations have been beaten down by Rian so we will see where this goes. What I am hoping is for a reunification of a shattered fan base. Until Episode 8 I had never disagreed with you (Zeb) and Sammy on anything substantive in Star Wars ever.. and now we dont agree on anything. If nothing else that is the undeniable legacy of Rian at the moment.
I also want : a proper space battle. Where we can actually see some of the battle and ships are fighting ships and we can follow that.. and a battle where troops fight troops. This new trilogy has been very light on the Wars part of Star Wars. The first one had some but even then you didnt really get to follow any space ship on space ship fighting and the second one.. was the first one we didnt even get a lightsaber duel and only a very brief space battle at the beginning.
Lets get back to the roots and make us a real Space Opera with lots of WWII inspired fights that also have emotional content!