• Veda the Moor

    @sammyc521
    Just because the FO wants Russ.. why would he take less? Rather, that gives him more leverage.

    It's all well and good to say he's not Stafford but then.. where is the limit?

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    I would counter argue that Wilson probably feels he would be an exception not a rule as well.. he believes in himself and he will bet on himself. The only question to me really is if he can be persuaded that taking less is more. Taking less money so the team has success can lead to more earning potential. If the Seahawks are always a play off team but not a championship team.. endorsements will be less, visibility will be less. If football is a springboard to greater things, then he needs the visibility and post career cash flow that another Super Bowl or two would bring.

    People were thinking that 35 million a year that we used in another example was too high , but in the end it was probably too low as a theoretical start.

    So.. are you on board with RW at 38/39/40 million...?

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    Ive read it before and its an excellent primer. Even if it is by Matt Millen, who we might question as to his scouting abilities. ;)

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    Youve invited me before, but next time Im over Id love to go to a practice and check it out. Looks cool.

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    What are the rules , if you dont mind?

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    So..its all over the news. All over social media. All over everywhere..and its an interesting case study in how people get their news. Different people saw different video first, heard different rumors first, etc.

    The WORST take I heard was someone trying to say he had heard from a legit source that Nathan Phillips had approached the high school students who were just randomly singing their school song and tried to confront them. Of course, that take was always going to be ridiculous.. but when faced with the fact that Nathan Phillips is someone who is a Pipe Carer, has been awarded two eagle feathers, is a serious community leader.. well, it just shows the bad judgement people are making with their choice of sources.

    I am confused today by the change in takes and thats mostly what I want to talk about.

    Having watched the longer video, many people are saying they change their view points. I dont get this. Ive watched the longest video once and the key points of it several times.Ive watched all the shorter videos. Im still not seeing where we are meant to change our viewpoint. And then reading the release by the student featured most prominently in the video..the one with the grin on his face.. I am not inclined to rethink my position, but rather have it entrenched because a) the letter is obviously the work of a brain storming session and has been gone over by a lawyer and b) its obviously full of lies. And if he feels he needs to lie there, we know exactly that he knows what is being said is correct, the first time.

    Lies -- he didnt move so as to not provoke the Indian. The Indian isnt a fucking T Rex or bear or puma. Hes a person. When you want to defuse (or as the student wrote, "diffuse"...) a situation, among human beings you back up. Its what people of color are ALWAYS expected to do and always taught to do. Back up.

    Lies -- he smiled part of the time, to show friendship. He never smiles in a friendly manner. He has a mocking, condescending, trying to be a big man grin on his face nearly from beginning to end.

    Lies -- he didnt see anyone from his group acting aggressively or mockingly or in an insulting manner. But you watch the videos.. the videos people are now saying they see in a new light .. and you tomahawk chops, you hear and see people making fake "Indian war cries", you hear one student warning his classmates not to touch Mr. Phillips so we KNOW it was THAT CLOSE to taking that turn. You see a student arguing that "lands get stolen" so Indians should get over it.

    Im having trouble as well digesting the "its just kids" argument. They are 17. Most people making that argument probably would have counted those kids when we asked them how many people were in the anti abortion march the students had just been in.. but if we are saying 17 is too young to make a moral decision about how to treat an elderly peace maker playing a drum.. would we also argue they are too young to take part in an abortion protest? They are too young to make moral and ethical decisions right? They just make mistakes right? Too easily led astray? Hmm.

    We know that grin. that the student had. That condescending, "how quaint" attitude.. that knowing attitude ..he "knows" he's better. Now, part of that is being 17 I will admit. But we had better figure out what in mainstream American culture will produce this situation. And I dont want to overstate it.. no actual crimes were committed. But what kind of America do we think we have when this kind of thing happens. Now I get the other group there.. the hate group spouting homophobic and racist bullshit riled people up. But how does that turn into intimidating a small group of Indians, the leader of which is clearly trying to separate out and help the young men from doing something stupid to the antagonizing group.

    I dont want to overstate things. There was no crime committed really. And I am not calling for any expulsion, firing, or whatever. But just because something isnt a crime doesnt make it right. And the fact people are defending it..or pretending the larger context someone shows anything exonerating the kids is disturbing.

    Its just a sad state of affairs right now.

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    Im still going to watch it because its the Super Bowl. But Im not into it. Im not even into hating Brady anymore. I think its an interesting dynamic and Id love to see what his career would have been if he had played anywhere else, and Id like to see what Bellicheks career would have looked like if he never had Brady.

    Certain people are going to be insufferable if the Rams win but they will be learning the wrong lessons. Its not about whats the current fad in offenses.. its the fact that they pay peanuts for their QB and RBs, so they could over pay for everything else.

    Once again we have a Super Bowl of two teams not paying market value for QBs.

    I guess I slightly want the Patriots to win.. but its like saying "Id rather be shot in the head than stabbed in the heart".

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    I mean, realistically we are just talking about who holds the clipboard and calls the toss in overtime, but this is an interesting signing. He had some tools to make people value him where they did. And more than most positions, QBs can benefit from sitting and watching and learning.. could be a decent pick up.

    I was sad to see Alex McGough went to Jax. Thought he had potential in our system and that we were a good landing spot for him.

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  • Veda the Moor

    So .. our season is over.

    We have the 21st pick.

    We have some people who's contracts just expired.

    We have Russ going into his last year .

    We have some holes to plug and upgrades to make.

    If we want to make 2019 a bigger success, what are your preferred moves to make?

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    I don't think they actually ran it as much as people think on first downs. It's just that the first 3 possessions they had no first downs so it's skewed the perception. Go watch first downs.. it was 50/50.

    The onside kick was not great but there aren't a lot of options. Probably need another tweet to the rules . Not gonna harsh on Dickson.

    Defense has to take responsibility. The fade TD reception.. a CB with ball awareness picks that off. After Earl went out we had very few interceptions this season. Gave up a season high in rushing yards. 1 sack against Dak.. with the Cowboys using a back up guard.

    Regarding the drop kicks I wonder if there is an angle thing Pete is worried about.

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    All season we hear Dickson would try a drop kick.. and in warm ups he does them.. but Carroll just couldnt make himself try one.

    The world is outraged at so many running plays. I was ok with that, but I thought more variety of running plays would have benefited things.
    But really..go after coordinators and play calls is kind of going after low hanging fruit, isnt it? Those plays worked all season and to a degree against the Dallas Cowboys. Gotta win your matchup. Gotta move your guy. I suspect Sweezy shouldnt have played. Admirable for fighting through everything and coming back from what is usually a month long injury..but if he couldnt move his guy because of it.. well.. I would have like to have seen more read option early.

    But the defense wasnt all that awesome and doesnt get a complete pass. We had a lead. Then the defense committed 2 PIs (one of of which is debatable) then gives up a 3rd and 14 QB draw when Wagner misses just his second tackle of the season...

    For me there wasnt one thing... just didnt have their A game.

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    Couldnt sleep.. feel like I want to throw up.. still have to wait 3 1/2 hours.........

    Go 'Hawks... smash'em.

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    Its a bummer..I thought that the combo of FS McD and SS Hill had surpassed FS T2 and SS McD by the end of the season. In TC and early season I thought the opposite but Hill might be the type that just needed real playing time.

    Oh well...

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    About to watch this again. During the first half I was distracted by work..
    Man the play calling in the second half was aggressive. What a game..

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    Excellent compilation! Thank you!

    Chief fans getting nervous.

    Wilson finally getting MVP hype.. he will probably get a few votes for it and somehow wasnt even voted into the pro bowl...

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    Really digging this game. Great entertainment.

    Awesome catch by Baldwin.. now if the D can re capture first half form...

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    So your argument is there is no one in the NFL worth spending any money on except Russel Wilson...? That giant contracts DONT actually affect your ability to pay other people...?

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    Well if we must blame someone Lymon is as good a someone as any. Take him to the "wine cellar".

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    But you DO recognize we got to the Super Bowl on his rookie contract, twice..and since then as his salary goes up weve been less and less successful, right? Potentially this year breaks that trend..though not yet..

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    Yes, we are winning because of Wilson right now, not just with him. But we have to.. hes on his second contract. Hes eating a huge percentage of the cap. And although the cap goes up every year, the percentage of the cap that is taken up by the quarterback has been steadily increasing.

    You dont need a generational quarterback to win the Super Bowl. There isnt one answer to the Super Bowl puzzle. Its, in my opinion, very lazy of teams to keep going with the Peyton Manning Model.. "once you have your QB pay him anything because thats all that matters!"

    Last Super Bowl.. it was Brady vs Foles. Brady takes less because his business gets benefits from the Patriots. Foles was a cheap back up, Wentz was on his rookie contract.

    The year before, Matt Ryan was the high priced QB and lost. The cheaper quarterback won (Brady again).

    The year before? It was Manning and Newton. This is where we reinforced the Manning method..

    The year before that.. Wilson on his rookie contract, Brady on his discount contract.

    They year before that.. Wilson vs Manning. Two completely different models of getting there.

    Before that , Flacco and Kaep.. 2 qbs on their rookie contracts.

    We dont see Stafford, Rodgers, Rivers or any number of other "franchise QBs" whose teams use up a huge amount of cap space on their qb. You CAN win that way..but its really hard.. if 20 teams build that way and you want to compete with them..you have to have a better QB or potentially better WRS. Its hard to get a competitive advantage unless you truly have a super elite QB like Manning. Mere Franchise QBs dont seem to cut it when paid like the market says they should be, and then look at the Seahawks -- the more they pay Wilson the worse theyve done in the playoffs.

    I heard it mentioned if you build this way its easier because its easier to get one player right -- The QB. But I dont buy that.. to be competitive with a 30 million dollar QB taking up 17% of your cap you have to hit on all your draft picks so you have cheap , competent players everywhere.

    We will keep Wilson..but thats because its a risk adverse league.

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    That top ESPN article is really good with a cool graphic of Penny's cut back run. Im having so much fun this season!

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    So...Shanahan is safe, John Lynch is updating his resume? lol

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    4 weeks ago I was 9-1 in this league. Alone in first place.

    Then I lost the next 3 games..... fell from 1st to 5th seed and backed into the playoffs.

    Today I lost in the first round by 3.5 points. Because McCoy got hurt on the first drive of the game. .1 point.

    Sucks.

    If youve got Gurley and Mahomes you should win so looks like Austin is gonna take it.

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