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    @sammyc521 said in Extend Russ at 35 million?:

    No. I'm pretty sure that the Seahawks paid Wilson $99M his first contract.

    Who are these players that the Seahawks are magically missing out on by giving Wilson his first extension? If anything trading for players like Harvin and Graham have done more to hurt the Seahawks than extending their QB.

    This is pretty difficult to answer with specific names. I will say that all that extra money would have been spent. Maybe even spent on the Offensive Line that was neglected for so long because there wasn't money to pay them. That's the kind of thing that happens when a QB is signed to massive contracts. There becomes less money to spend on players from every position group.

    What I'm saying is, IN THIS ERA, I believe that a team will have a better chance at winning it all by drafting a Rookie QB, and using all the extra money to solidify the rest of the teams position groups. Which is what the Seahawks did that won them SB48. It is especially important to do this now. With the bounty from a Wilson trade the Seahawks could be rebuilt in an offseason and back to the SB in 3 years. So in other words, attack this roster like PC and JS did when they first got here. Worked the first time!

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    @Lymon I was floored when I saw that she made over 2x the amount he did! I had no idea! Still, if that is the reason he didn't want the richest contract in NFL history then Ciara needs to get off her lazy tookus and sang some more songs!

    Everything is relative with the cap. The cap goes up and so does the players salary demands. But I agree about Wilson. The key is "reasonable amount". I'm saying that 35 million a year is not reasonable for what the position is asked to do in this system. Russ has perhaps played so well that he's played himself right out of the Seahawks system. If the system relies on Running over 50% of the time and a top 5 defense then is it really wise to spend what would be the NFL's richest contract with the most money ever guaranteed? I'm saying no. I don't really know why anyone would say yes?

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    You were making my case for me a little bit here.

    1st - Brady took less. Why did he do that? To have money to spend elsewhere. If Russ doesn't want top dollar and wants to take less to have money for other positions, sign him now.

    2nd - In the past 8 Super Bowls you listed 11 QBs. I would argue 3 of the 11 could be considered generational. A generational QB is NOT needed.

    3rd - "The bigest thing is investing in the right players". I completely agree. At the right price of course.

    4th - If Wilson was on his rookie contract the Hawks may not of lowballed a player they invested good draft capital in. Sheldon Richardson should still be a part of this team.

    5th - I agree that there is no sign that Russ is holding the Hawks back. However you don't need a record-breaking QB contracts to not hold a team back.

    6th - The best bargains were on prove it deals. The thing was when they did prove it there was money for the 2nd contracts.

    With the cap money they'd save and the haul of players and/or picks from the trade, JS would risk cap-strapping the team and risking its future if they didn't trade Russ.

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    Ok. I see where you're coming from. I just don't buy it!

    First we'd need to agree that Russ is a generational talent. If he is, I want to know what generation? RW is a great QB but "generational"? If you really believe that then Yes, you'd pay him. I don't. No one will remember this era of the NFL as the Russell Wilson Era. Not with the big 3 of Brady, Rogers and Brees in the league. It's because he's a great fit for this team and the way they use him.

    The goal is Super Bowls. I don't believe part of getting there is securing a top 5 paid QB. We need to look at the ingredients to go to the Bowl in this era of football and salary cap. That is the Russell Wilson and Carson Wentz model of team building. Drafting QBs is a crap-shoot but that's why you hire the best GM and Scouting Department money can by. They increase your chances of not drafting a dud. Get a player like Mahomes and your golden. Hell, I think Pete Carroll could build a winner around Lamar Jackson. I mean, he's a running threat that would complicate the already formidable run game and would give us money to get great players at other positions.

    Ultimately I believe the key to winning the Super Bowl isn't the highest paid Quarterback. It is the quality of the playerS (plural) on your team. In this era the money is better spent in multiple, smaller chunks to 2nd contract players than one lump sum to QB of a run first team.

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    Herald Net - POLL RESULTS: Opinions mixed on Russell Wilson contract

    About half of the Seahawk fanbase polled would extend Russell Wilson at any cost. The other half wants a more team cap friendly deal and some want to trade him for what I assume would be a kings ransom. What are your thoughts? Personally, and I love Russ, but trade him. I think in a system that pushes a strong running game with a stout defense, the QB has less pressure than a pass-oriented team with ok defense that is designed to win shootouts. In that scenario, Aaron Rodgers money is called for. But with the Seahawks, a accurate, and yeah I'll say it, "Game Manager" type of QB that makes decent but not top dollar money would be perfect for them.

    Look, its not a question of Russ or Nathan Peterman. There are good QBs coming up that could do the job AND be on a cap friendly rookie contract. Think RW + LOB all over again. Russ's rookie contract allowed big spending else where. Come get one of those QBs that teams trade back into the late first round for and you got him for 5 years on the cheap!

    Love him and he'll always be remembered as part of the greatest Seahawk teams (so far) but Russ has got to go.

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    Uh Oh.... Frank Clark went from limited this week to OUT on Thursday. Wonky elbow. I don't like this. I wish we had a playoff spot already wrapped up but until its for sure I want all my guns out there.

    Seattle Times - Injury Report

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    PFT - Vikings fire John DeFilippo

    The former Eagles quarterbacks coach, pegged by many in the media as a favorite for a head-coaching gig in 2019, had become the focal point of rampant criticism for his refusal to embrace the run, and for the overall ineffectiveness of the offense. Last night’s loss to the Seahawks became the low point for the 2017 NFC finalists.

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    That'll do it! D was very impressive tonight. O had some problems but I think they can be worked out. Run game still on point. I think the Hawks can lock up a playoff spot with a win next week against the 49ers. With 3 games remaining and 2 3-win teams on the schedule, I can't believe it but we could end the season 10-6. Double digit wins!!

    Surprising season for sure. Lovin' it!

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    TD ON D!!!! WOOOOO HOOOOO!!!

    K.... I feel a bit better now.

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