• Birdfinger

    @veda-the-moor said in Seahawks Announce 2018 Training Camp Dates:

    Ok., I've arranged to go to 5 days of training camp. Pretty good. Will send in reports and photos!
    Going with Sammy to one so maybe we can do a sort of podcast type thing as we watch!

    That would be sweet! I don't think I can fly in to go to any this year. It would be just like being there!

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  • Birdfinger

    @lymon said in Earl Thomas announces he'll holdout:

    Or perhaps, JS lied.....it's been known to happen....no?

    Heh-heh... I didn't even think of that! (Smacks forhead) This actually makes sense. It EASILY could have been a negotiating tactic to put that out there.

    Ok... Never mind. Carry on!

    Back to jacked!

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  • Birdfinger

    I don't blame Earl for wanting an extension. However, what happened with JS? During the draft, didn't he get a guarantee of no holdout from the ET camp? And now he's holding out? THATS my problem. Who knows what would have happened had they not... what... lied(?) to JS?

    NOT jacked.

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  • Birdfinger

    Sammy - I agree totally. Good movie. I think my review would be invalid because I'm on the record saying I would love any movie set in the Star Wars universe. "Dude, Where's My Car", "Dances With Wolves", "Purple Rain",... All remade Star Wars style. Hey, the musicians have lives too!!

    I did really liked that it was a buddy movie. I was always bummed Chewy didn't have more scenes. (Ha, A "foreign" film on Kashyyk about the lives of Wookies with subtitles!! I'd go see it.) Chewy got some Screen Time! It was exactly the direction I was looking for in that, like you said, there was no"Jedi, the Force or a Skywalker." Love that stuff but I want a look into the nooks and crannies of that universe.

    For me it was 2nd shelf. Not as good as the the other new ST flicks but I'm definitely getting the disc when it comes out. (Still tactile about my media.)This really isn't a negative thing. Its like A+, vs A-.

    (Ok... a little bit of a review..)

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  • Birdfinger

    K, I'm out over my ski's a bit aren't I.

    I debate for Sh*t I know. Ultimately what I meant was if it came between either making Russ the highest paid or draft somebody. I'd draft somebody.

    I was trying to get to what I thought the future should hold in a world according to me. Thats a future that would willfully fly in the face of recent history. I'm positing that the time has arrived that no team with a QB that becomes the highest paid QB in the NFL will play in a Super Bowl henceforth! Matt Ryan's deal has sealed the Falcons fate to years of "almost but nope." Rodgers will continue hamstringing the Packers, then sadly, the Seahawks will not go back to the Super Bowl if they sign Russell Wilson to a contract that makes him the highest paid QB in the NFL. Yeah, I said it!

    Also, I say to get a rookie to make your run on because of the rookie deals. A journeyman can have a good year then renegotiate,hold out, or just be a pain. Rookies are Effed! They are under complete control of the team and the 1st round rookies could be under team control for 5 years! If the rook tries anything funny he's putting his 2nd contract in jeopardy. He's got to bust his tail for as long as the team wants him. If he isn't working out, there is another crop of QBs coming up the following year. Meanwhile, Your strong and complete (sans QB) team is still intact.

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  • Birdfinger

    @lymon said in 30 mil. + for Russell??:

    The big problem I find with your hypothesis is you seem to think quality/franchise QBs are easy to find. Now, we did great with our rookie contract QB, but that I believe is not the norm. A very good QB is hard to find....IMO.

    I don't think they are easy to find, but I do think... how do I say this.... the number of potential QBs you can win with improves the stronger your team is on both sides of the ball. A team wouldn't need to identify that great QB coming down the pipeline years in advance the way Andrew Luck was watched. There would be QBs every year that could get it done with all the money spent on the rest of the team.

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  • Birdfinger

    @veda-the-moor said in 30 mil. + for Russell??:

    I'm not sure you're correct that quarterbacks are taking up a higher percentage of the salary cap. For quite a while their price was stagnant actually. The cap has gone up 25% in a fairly short time but quarterbacks haven't gone up by that I don't think.. would need to look it up.

    Oops... didn't mean to talk out my butt there. I thought I read it... on the internet... and thought "well this has to be true!" but I can't find it in the couple moments that I looked for it. It may have been something like the initial contracts are in line but the more contracts are signed in a given year, the further out of whack it gets. What with all the "1-upsmanship" and all. I wonder if, historically speaking, there was point in time when QB salaries made a jump in terms cap percentage. If it jumped say, in 2010, then looking at a before and after may be interesting.

    But regardless, I'm still contending QBs on rookie contracts is the way to contend for championships and that belief is really starting to settle in for the long haul I think.

    @veda-the-moor said in 30 mil. + for Russell??:

    This article reaches the same conclusion as we did:
    https://ftw.usatoday.com/2018/02/nfl-quarterback-salaries-salary-cap-kirk-cousins-free-agency/amp

    Ok... maybe I had a hot take in my mind but just a plain "take" in the real world. Is this opinion of ours in a stark minority or is it when thats gaining steam in the NFL community? Normally I'm dialed in better than this.

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    Honestly, I thought I was going to get more push back than this. Surprisingly that makes me sad. I want Russ to retire a Seahawk but I know when its his turn he'll want to break the bank. Even possibly go fully guaranteed. I just don't want that for my Seahawks. I don't really think ANY one person is worth that much of the percentage of cap space. So if it comes down to that, I'd say goodbye to a player I was proud of and I loved to cheer for.

    Makes me sad. (sadface emoji)

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  • Birdfinger

    @lymon said in 30 mil. + for Russell??:

    Doesn't the cap usually go up every year? It's not like the 'Hawks are going broke, nor is this a fantasy league.

    Will $30mil (as compared to let's say, 25mil) keep us from getting/keeping good players? IMHO: That is the real question.

    Yeah the cap goes up. So does the percentage of cap QBs are eating year after year. I was railing against paying QBs all this money in that post but I think at the heart of all my babbling was to not give QBs a 2nd contract. Ok, VERY hot take, but the team gets control of a rookie drafted in the first round for, what is it, 4-years with a team option for a 5th? I'd rather go that route and spend on defense and offensive line. When the Seahawks won the SB they had a very well paid O-line.

    If you had the choice save money at one of the Defense, Offensive Line, or Quarterback, I'm saying I'm going QB because the kid is playing for his 2nd contract wherever that would come from.

    I woke up from a nap with this hot take. I'm sure its flawed as hell but I'm rolling with it for now!

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  • Birdfinger

    No. Not only no.... Hell No.

    There is paying a guy what he deserves then there is, for the betterment of the team, letting a guy go for someone else to do it.

    After the Seahawks went to back-to-back Super Bowls, I got it in my head that this system of paying rookies GREATLY benefits the team especially when it comes to QBs. While this CBA is in place, as is, chasing Championships with a QB on his rookie contract, with money spent on many other highly talented players, isn't the only way to go, but is IMO, the best way to go..

    I'd rather put the pressure on the scouting department to find a next Russ or Wentz. We can talk about how the QB is the most important player on the team. However saying that too many times can lead one to start to believe that money is no object and that he has got to be on your team because if not, that would guarantee a litany of losing seasons resulting in moving the team to somewhere like Mexico City.

    The time of the highly paid Great QB being the most important ingredient in a championship team is over. The money it takes to retain them has taken them over line from helpful to hurtful. I see the future of 30 million dollar QBs to be stars of Wild Card teams with 9-10 wins. The future is QBs on their rookie contract, playing for Championships, then being discarded by SB contenders to make big money in Cleveland.

    Wrong or right that hot take has been on my mind for a while now. It may just be from nostalgia of the XLVIII team coupled with a strong Eagles team that's emerging and the news that Matt Ryan is the leagues first 30 million a year QB. Matt Ryan of "one great year" fame. If Russell wants to beat that deal he most certainly will. I just hope its not the Seahawks that will be flipping the bill.

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