K, I'm out over my ski's a bit aren't I.
I debate for Sh*t I know. Ultimately what I meant was if it came between either making Russ the highest paid or draft somebody. I'd draft somebody.
I was trying to get to what I thought the future should hold in a world according to me. Thats a future that would willfully fly in the face of recent history. I'm positing that the time has arrived that no team with a QB that becomes the highest paid QB in the NFL will play in a Super Bowl henceforth! Matt Ryan's deal has sealed the Falcons fate to years of "almost but nope." Rodgers will continue hamstringing the Packers, then sadly, the Seahawks will not go back to the Super Bowl if they sign Russell Wilson to a contract that makes him the highest paid QB in the NFL. Yeah, I said it!
Also, I say to get a rookie to make your run on because of the rookie deals. A journeyman can have a good year then renegotiate,hold out, or just be a pain. Rookies are Effed! They are under complete control of the team and the 1st round rookies could be under team control for 5 years! If the rook tries anything funny he's putting his 2nd contract in jeopardy. He's got to bust his tail for as long as the team wants him. If he isn't working out, there is another crop of QBs coming up the following year. Meanwhile, Your strong and complete (sans QB) team is still intact.
The big problem I find with your hypothesis is you seem to think quality/franchise QBs are easy to find. Now, we did great with our rookie contract QB, but that I believe is not the norm. A very good QB is hard to find....IMO.
I don't think they are easy to find, but I do think... how do I say this.... the number of potential QBs you can win with improves the stronger your team is on both sides of the ball. A team wouldn't need to identify that great QB coming down the pipeline years in advance the way Andrew Luck was watched. There would be QBs every year that could get it done with all the money spent on the rest of the team.
I'm not sure you're correct that quarterbacks are taking up a higher percentage of the salary cap. For quite a while their price was stagnant actually. The cap has gone up 25% in a fairly short time but quarterbacks haven't gone up by that I don't think.. would need to look it up.
Oops... didn't mean to talk out my butt there. I thought I read it... on the internet... and thought "well this has to be true!" but I can't find it in the couple moments that I looked for it. It may have been something like the initial contracts are in line but the more contracts are signed in a given year, the further out of whack it gets. What with all the "1-upsmanship" and all. I wonder if, historically speaking, there was point in time when QB salaries made a jump in terms cap percentage. If it jumped say, in 2010, then looking at a before and after may be interesting.
But regardless, I'm still contending QBs on rookie contracts is the way to contend for championships and that belief is really starting to settle in for the long haul I think.
This article reaches the same conclusion as we did:
Ok... maybe I had a hot take in my mind but just a plain "take" in the real world. Is this opinion of ours in a stark minority or is it when thats gaining steam in the NFL community? Normally I'm dialed in better than this.
Honestly, I thought I was going to get more push back than this. Surprisingly that makes me sad. I want Russ to retire a Seahawk but I know when its his turn he'll want to break the bank. Even possibly go fully guaranteed. I just don't want that for my Seahawks. I don't really think ANY one person is worth that much of the percentage of cap space. So if it comes down to that, I'd say goodbye to a player I was proud of and I loved to cheer for.
Makes me sad. (sadface emoji)
Doesn't the cap usually go up every year? It's not like the 'Hawks are going broke, nor is this a fantasy league.
Will $30mil (as compared to let's say, 25mil) keep us from getting/keeping good players? IMHO: That is the real question.
Yeah the cap goes up. So does the percentage of cap QBs are eating year after year. I was railing against paying QBs all this money in that post but I think at the heart of all my babbling was to not give QBs a 2nd contract. Ok, VERY hot take, but the team gets control of a rookie drafted in the first round for, what is it, 4-years with a team option for a 5th? I'd rather go that route and spend on defense and offensive line. When the Seahawks won the SB they had a very well paid O-line.
If you had the choice save money at one of the Defense, Offensive Line, or Quarterback, I'm saying I'm going QB because the kid is playing for his 2nd contract wherever that would come from.
I woke up from a nap with this hot take. I'm sure its flawed as hell but I'm rolling with it for now!
No. Not only no.... Hell No.
There is paying a guy what he deserves then there is, for the betterment of the team, letting a guy go for someone else to do it.
After the Seahawks went to back-to-back Super Bowls, I got it in my head that this system of paying rookies GREATLY benefits the team especially when it comes to QBs. While this CBA is in place, as is, chasing Championships with a QB on his rookie contract, with money spent on many other highly talented players, isn't the only way to go, but is IMO, the best way to go..
I'd rather put the pressure on the scouting department to find a next Russ or Wentz. We can talk about how the QB is the most important player on the team. However saying that too many times can lead one to start to believe that money is no object and that he has got to be on your team because if not, that would guarantee a litany of losing seasons resulting in moving the team to somewhere like Mexico City.
The time of the highly paid Great QB being the most important ingredient in a championship team is over. The money it takes to retain them has taken them over line from helpful to hurtful. I see the future of 30 million dollar QBs to be stars of Wild Card teams with 9-10 wins. The future is QBs on their rookie contract, playing for Championships, then being discarded by SB contenders to make big money in Cleveland.
Wrong or right that hot take has been on my mind for a while now. It may just be from nostalgia of the XLVIII team coupled with a strong Eagles team that's emerging and the news that Matt Ryan is the leagues first 30 million a year QB. Matt Ryan of "one great year" fame. If Russell wants to beat that deal he most certainly will. I just hope its not the Seahawks that will be flipping the bill.
Coolio. I'm so happy to be here I can't even tell you! One thing I thought was odd was the twitter handle and the forum name don't match. We got Seahawks Fantable, Seahawks Podcast, and Hawks Cast Forum. Either renaming these for continuity or perhaps getting a seperate twitter handle for Hawks Cast Forum would be a couple options. Having the word "Forum" would hopefully indicate a community and get people to click through to the Forum.
I also would like to see some original content. I mean, y'all can get IN DEPTH on things so writing a few words and tweeting it out with a link back here to the rest of the article/post may increase some traffic.
Apparently I'm all about Twitter... (shrug emoji)
Also, encouraging live feedback during podcasts. Usually I'll see a list of topics y'all be discussing but no TIME to show up for the live event. I was there once or twice but I wasn't sure if you guys really wanted that live interaction.
Whatever is going on, it needs to be brought to the attention of the people. The twitter account needs to actively follow Hawk fans to get a couple follow backs. Facebook (sucks) same idea.
Ok, this typing spasm is about over. Need another cup of coffee. I'll revisit soon.
Ok, Lets get down to important aspects of the Shaquem pick:
What number will he be? I know the jerseys for sale are #49 but that typically is not a linebacker number. Thats more, safety or....utility? Dollars to Donuts his number changes during rookie camp this weekend.
Planning out the timing of my jersey purchase.
***Off topic- Any chance to trim down the emojis?? I like 'em but darned if I can find what I'm after!
My boy Rob Rang gets it with his draft grades. A line from his Seahawks write up:
"... an underrated class that likely will earn poor marks from national pundits who fail to recognize that the Seahawks' blueprint is different than most others in the NFL."